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Name of this article shoult be Lara Lor-Van. Not Lara-El!
- What is Lor-Van, is that her maiden name? I'm really sorry that I'm so ignorant of the comics, I just assumed that that's what it would be, but it can be easily changed. That sucks now cos i already changed all the redirects too. Marikology
- Just change it to Lara Lor-Van. I know that its easy to think that the name is El because that is Jor-El's name. Lor-Van is father's name like Kara Zor-El. .User: BatteryB
- Let's just open it up to a vote.Marikology 23:38, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Change page name[]
- Change to Lara-El- If that's what they called her in the show, that's what it should be on the wiki. Marikology 23:38, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- Change, per reason above. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 23:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- As an aside, it's not true to say that in the comics, she was "Lara Lor-Van", and leave it at that. "Lara-El" existed as the less frequent variant in the pre-Crisis era, with writers generally, but not always, preferring Lara Lor-Van. Post-crisis from Byrne's Man of Steel revamp until Jeph Loeb came around with his "Return to Krypton" storyline in 2001, it was pretty consistently Lara-El — when her last name was given. This, by the way, is why the Dini animated series from 1996 credits the character voiced by Finola Hughes in TAS pilot as "Lara-El". The distinction between men and women in the 80s and 90s (and, to be fair, really the entirety of the Superman canon) was that men tended to be called by their whole names in casual, even intimate, conversations, whereas women were only formally appended with their married/house name. In other words, Lara calls him "Jor-El", he calls her "Lara". Now, thanks largely to Loeb and the whole movement to recapture the pre-Crisis legacy, we're back to "Lara Lor-Van", but only after "Lara-El" has been established as a legitimate name for the character. The reason for this sorta constant flip-flopping is that no one has ever bothered to take the narrative time to establish Kryptonian traditions. Even the pre-Crisis miniseries, "The World of Krypton", didn't really get into the finer points of Kryptonian social customs. (The writers of that series decided that it would be much more fun to muddy the waters on Jor-El by showing that Kal-El's father was really Jor-El II, son of Jor-El I.) CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 00:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- Change, for reasons above. Kara definitely refers to her as Lara-El in the episode Blue. --Kanamekun 20:26, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Did she have powers?[]
The Lara that appeared in Blue was just a copy. If she had powers, why'd she stand around like a bump on a log the whole episode while Zor-El (who most certainly did use his) beat people up? Zor-El was dragging her and Kara around and beating people up and Clark was trying really hard to keep her out of harm's way, which leads me to believe that she didn't have normal Kryptonian powers. Why should we assume a copy has powers if they are not demonstrated? Marikology 05:32, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, interesting point! But wait... if Lara was just a copy/replicant, then what was Zor-El? I figured they were both replicants with their kryptonian DNA encoded in the Blue Crystal... --Kanamekun 05:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- I was thinking about this some more and realized that unlike Zor-El, Lara hadn't spent much time on Earth. It could be that she just wasn't used to having powers, and so she didn't use them instinctively? I think that given that Zor-El was also a replicant who came out of the crystal and had super powers (and since all Kryptonians have powers here on Earth), the safest best is that she did had powers but just didn't use them. --Kanamekun 09:50, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, interesting point! But wait... if Lara was just a copy/replicant, then what was Zor-El? I figured they were both replicants with their kryptonian DNA encoded in the Blue Crystal... --Kanamekun 05:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Please don't start a revert war...[]
Instead, please start a discussion when there is a disagreement.
You can see here that Zor-El does push Lara hard, but I wouldn't exactly call her survival of it "invulnerability": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeMxGXjR1zs
She could easily have landed on some snow, or slid on some ice. In any event, invulnerability is a passive power and so it's harder to say someone displayed it unless there's clear evidence (e.g. when Tess tried to stab Alexander with a syringe, but the needle broke). Given the absence of that being shown on-screen, I don't think we can conclusively say that she demonstrated super powers and therefore must have "solar energy absorption".
Would love to hear other people's takes here... --Kanamekun 02:51, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
Regarding whether or not Lara displayed invulnerability on that occasion, I'd say, based on that link, though I don't want to believe it, as it occurred off-screen and was not explored, she did display a mild degree of it, as in the background, if you pay close attention, you can hear crystals crack, suggesting that she hit them, and I'm kind of a stickler when it comes to canonical information, of which is the case for this, as she did display it. So, will no more further ado, although once again, I don't won't to say it (because it wasn't explored enough), but, invulnerability should be noted on her page. -- ImperiexSeed, 11:03 PM, May 30th 2011
In rewatching the Blue episode, I noticed something different that I missed the first time around, and I'll admit it, What I noticed was interesting, remember when the Lara clone emerged from the crystal, well at that time, she had Jor-El's victory ring, made out of Blue kryptonite, on her, which would've made her mortal and powerless during that time, also, the Zor-El clone made a comment concerning her abilities, he told Clark that she had no idea that the ring would strip Clark of his powers, which to me, suggests that she also wasn't aware, or at least concerned, with her abilities, leading me to assume that she may have really demonstrated her powers... -- ImperiexSeed, 7:58 AM, June 6th 2011